news letter. "the reidout" with joy reids next. joy doesn't hav a hennessy in her hand but a good show. >> however this show goes you can blame it on the -- not on that, though. you're not going to blame it on that. no, i'm not even going to go there. bye, ari. have a good night. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" with a little theater. okay, no, not that kind of theater. political theater and performance but more in the hunger games where the consequences are real and scary. historically, since the early 20th century when borrowing replaced the federal government having to issue bonds every time it wanted to spend more money than we take in in taxes, raising the debt limit has been a routine congressional function. but since president obama took office in 2009, republicans have performed a version of fiscal irresponsibility that is

unprecedted. they have flirted with, threatened and bringing america to the brinkf defaulting on national debt repeatedly prox mitt ly -- approximately every two yearsince 2011 and our government actually shut down for a month because president obama refused to play charlie brown to mitch mcconnell's lucid with the football act. republicans represent lots of billionaires and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and his wife are really rich. defaulting would hurt them, too. what's the point? so republicans can perform a fake kind of fiscal probe by demanding cuts to government services and spending in exchange for raising the debt limit and paying the nation's lls of course, that theater ma miraculously disappears and mitch has the gavel, which is why during the trump administration, spend away. because none of it matters.

republicans do not care about the debt. they never have. what they do care about is not letting democratic administrations succeed even if that means recking the economy to ruin their administrations, and they care about not letting democrats spend money on ordinary people like you. they only want money to be spent on things like giant subsides like oil companies and tax cuts for the super rich. all e res is eater. hunger games theater. which brings us to today. when senate republicans have once again dragged the united states into the world to the brink of catastrophe. mcconnell that led republican debt limit brinksmanship all three previous times that happened to the obama biden administration and for weeks dended democrats raise the debt limit on their own refused the request to do just that. thanks to the self-described legislative grim reaper, 50 million seniors could stop

ceiving their social security checks. 30 million families would no longer receive child tax credits that have raised millions out of poverty and unemployment could shoot up, way up. don't take my word for it. here is treasury sretary janet yellenn what will happen if republicans get their way. >> it is imperative that congress address the debt limit. if not, our current estimate is the treasurely will likely exhaust it's extraordinary measures by october 18th. at that point,e expect treasury would be left with very limited resources that would be depleted quickly. america would default for the first time in history. the full faith and credit of the ited states would be impaired and our country would likely face a financialrisis and economic recession as a result. >> senate republicans are gleefully cheering on economic

destruction fl stop and solely to make a purely political point to punish psident joe biden and democrats foranting to pass a once in a lifetime proposal that would reshape the econic future for america like you. the work of getting that passed has been left to house progressives who have been unwavering in their insistence they wil not pass a bipartisan infrastructure package without passing biden's build back better agenda. they made that clear aga today, two days befe an expectedvote. >> it's been really clear we want to work as hard as we can to get a deal on reconciation to make sure that the entire bill is passed by t senate, a ll, so that there is no days and we stand just as comtted as ever to voting for the infrastructure bill. we will pass both bills. this i the president's agenda. it's not a wish list. it's the president's agenda and we'll fight for it. >> so here is what they're fighting for, child care, free prek, reduced prescription drug

prices, paid family leave, coege affordability and new climate bs. what is it that these nine house republicans and senators joe mansion and kyrsten sinema, what are they fighting for? we, welcome to the 2021 hunger mes. may the odds be ever in your favor. with me now, advisor for t d triple c and adam, executive director of battle born collective and former deputy chief of staff to senate majority leader harry reid. you used to be republan. i'm sorry, it's never been tru they car about debt. during regan, they snt like crazy. ring bush one, they spent like crazy. did it again during trump. y is it in your view that thesepeople, these senate republicans think it's good politics to crash theconomy in order to pretend that they care about the debt? >> joy, o of the things i'm

observed making this transition from being a republican to a democrat is that republicans often times play the game that they can take everything to the brink of collapse and sometimes even over the line of collapse and ultimately, nobody will hold them accountable for it. year afterear after year we have this fight. we see the hypocrisy and yet, when i read headlines and stories about what is going on in washington, i see headlines that talk about democrats in dirray, progressives versus moderates, washington divided. i never see it clearly defined for what it is, which is republicans bring the nation to the brink o economic collapse and disaster. i never see a full thwarted and concerted effort to hold republicans accountable. so the message they get is in the media's misguided attempt to play both sides to present both sides of the argargument, they' get away with it every time and that's a lesson they learned. they learned they can keep doing this and they will get away with

it and nobody will hold them accountable. >> that's true. that's a media critique that's absolutely true and because they do get away with and it the media will present only progressive insistence on policy as brinksmanship that's bad, right, because there is alway a skew towards centrists, that puts democrats in the weird position. this time they're doing something different. bernie sanders come out and says keep fighting them. he told house progressives nah, continue to vote for their stuff until the vote for her stuff. you've had greg sergeant saying centrists actually are the ones who should go to joe mansion and tell him, get him to tell them a number, that it isn't on the progressives to do it, that sin trysts should do it. nobody knows what they'll accept for a reconciliation bill to succeed at a minimum it will require mansion and krysten sinema to step up. you have democrats in sinema's

home state sayg it's on you, lady, you figure this out. is that the right approach on ur view? >> i think that is right. we're seeing a process exposing the fundamental emptiness of this supposedly centrists position. you have an interesting dynamic where you have progresves who are ones holding the line for the agenda, not of president sanders or president elibeth warren but president joe biden whoan on being a moderate i think if you told most people at the beginning of 2021 ts is where we'd find ourselves with progressives holding the line to pass president joe biden's agenda,hat's not where most people would think we are. they have a clear demand to pass both bills as was always the plan. all they're asking for is for moderas to meet them in the middle in good faith and explain what they want on reconciliation

and pass the bill if ksten sinema and mansion would come to the table and explain what they want. prressives are operating in good faith here, backing up president biden and the agenda he needs to succeed that america needs and all democrats need politically in 2022. you kno curt, let's talk about krysten sinema. she's holding fundraisers with th donor class that don't want this bill. she's doing everything but scream on the sid of the big donors. she won't come out and say it because that's bad politics for her. in your view, you've been a republican so you know how to fight them, what should democrats do about her? >> i think it's all about the messaging, joy. this is something that a you've talked about time and again is a weak spot for democrats over the st decade. it's -- you have to define what this is about. the idea that this bill, that is policy, these ideas are progressive or conservative, no, no. the majority o americans want

these things. the majority of americans want lower education, lower prescription drug and new green climate drugs and depend reliance on foreign sources of oil and want a betterworld, better health care, better education. this isn't progressive or conservative. this is what people want. that's whye need to talk about this. for people like krysten sinema, we need to message it to them directly under local stations in phoenix and tucson. this is the message that has to be about why this is good for you, why this matters. let's abandon the political d.c. labels and talk about it like it is. everybody inhis country wants this job and these bills except for the few vocal in the minority trying to impose the extreme radical view point. their extreme radical viewnd we can't let them get away with it that way. >> she was at the white house as recently as today and this month she claims she supports, she wants a lower number but not being super specific and again,

holding fundraisers with the richy riches that fundher. the other advice to democrats, adam, is just get rid of the debt limit. this only existed since the 1930 this isn't the way -- it's not in the constitution they have to do it this way. is it time to change the rules and democrs, once again, they have the ability to change the rules if they had the courage to do . >> time to get rid of the debt limi it serves no productive purpose or serve the purpose it was designed to serve in the first place. it is simply a ticking time bomb every time. all we're doing every time w raise it is reset the time bomb g off another year or two down the road. the markets hate it. business hates it. everybody hates it. it is not a useful tool at all. if democrats have to do this by themsees and go at it alone. i think they should do it once and for all and either raise it to some comically large number

like a gagillion dollars. find a way to doit. people are not going to do that. that will require a rules change which think they could do in fact inow they could do if they had 50 votes to do it. that doesn't require them to get the votes or reconciliation package. either way, they have to have unity and all 50 votes together to do that. >> what would hairy reid have done? >> didn't have a great relationship and in large part because he asked joe mansion to do hard things and gave him a hard time. i think schumer has a very accommodation approach to senators which may end up being the right strategy for joe

mansion there is no other route to go but at a certain point, you do have to play hardball with the moderates like the leaders like to play hardball with progressives. >> with the progressives. that's exactly right. yeah. for both sides. that's both sides argument i can agree with. thankoubo. u guy are eat. p ne, day's other peormanc the rublica rage over the afghanistan withdrawal. a war tt jt aboutverybody wanted to be over incding their favorite esident. also, the obama's break ground on the new presidentia center in chicago. the psident of the obama foundation and one of his closest advisors valerie jared joins me. after the tulsa race massacre, a court hearing begins today over reparations for survivors and the families of the victims and completely rewriting the history of the aids epidemic while spreading misinformation about covid. "t reidout" continues after this. "the reidout" continues after

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we help build a state mr. chairman but cannot forge a nation. the fact that the afghan army we and our partners train simply melted away in many cases without firing a shot took us all by surprise. in the end, we couldn't provide them with the will to win, at least not all of them and as a veteran of that war, i am personally reckoning with all of that. >> that was secretary of defense lloyd austin. delivering some painful truths about this country's 20-ar endeavor in afanistan. he testified today along with the commander of u.s. central command and the chaian of the joint chief of staff mark milley. republicans spent their time hammering talking points attempting to blame joe biden for ending a forever war that republicans favorite president vowed to end, too.

tommy tuberville is a former football coach, not military expert is musing about the u.s. sending our military back into afghanistan. >> i mean, we gave up the best base in that area and it is just amazing to me we'll have to go back and hopefully we don't lose the channel. that's your thoughts about it as we ended up here, secretary austin? >> well, i don't tnk it's preordained we'll have to go back, senator. >> at one point, tammy duckworth who i a military veteran and war hero offered much needed perspective to rick scott responding to his outrage. >> i just can't imagine in the history of this country, our u.s. millry would propose to leave a country without our citizens coming out first. i mean, have we ever done that

before? >> i do want to note that my family and i were in cambodia until the very end. i'm an american. i was born in thailand but my father worked for the united nations and to answer my colleague's question, my father chose to stay as long as people to help the cambodiaen people as long as people and he left after american troops left. >> mike dr. today's hearing was the first time general milley responded to the reporting from bob woodward and robert costa the steps he took to ward off an attack strike. reacting to intelligence showing the chinese believed the u.s. was plotting to secretly attack him,illey spoke twi in an effort to cool tensio. i kn, i am ctain that presiden trump did n intd to aack t cnese and i is directed responsibility and it was myirecte respsibility by the secretary

to convey that ient tthe chines my task at that time w to decalate my messagegain was constent. stay calm, stey and deescalate. we are not going to attack you. >> while republicans have accused the four-sr general of going rogue, it turns out those calls were not so secret after all. according to his testimony, numerous officia were looped in and milley informed secretary of state mike pompe and trump chief of staff mark meadows about one of the calls. joining me is cia director and security intelligence. i want to play another sound byte. one ofhe big fears at the end of the nixon is he would launch a clear attack. those were fears we arned. with trump, we started to hear from theooks that came out that people had similar fears about him doing something

erratic and maybe mad in his last ditch effort to stay in power. i wanto play for you, this is an exchange tt mark milley, a question thate described with speaker pelosi the risk of a nuclear launch. >> i sought to assure her that nuclea launcs governed by a ve specic andeliberate press. she was concerned and made various psonal referens char -- characterizg the president. i explained the president doesn't wan them alone. i am not qualified to determine the mental health of the president of the united states. >> does that, the fact that that happened frighten you as much as it does me? >> well, i think it was quite evident for quite sometime that donald trump was reckless and was trying to do everything possible to stay in office.

and so i think what general milley did was exactly appropriate. he is by law the senior military advisor to the president and secretary of defense and trying to ensure that the chinese did not misunderstand what was going on in the united states. the fact he shared it with the chief of staff of the president as well as the secretary of state, secretary of defense, it was not going rogue by any means. professional integrity within the military was doing his job to keep this country strong and safe. >> yeah, i think it's clear why people in the trumpest right dislike general milley. he's well read. he's intelligent. he apologized for doing the bible walk with trump. he saw that that was a bad idea. they see him as quote unquote broke because he has evolved views on race and racial history. that's why they hate him. here is one of the people with

that backdrop demanding something that's absolutely silly and asking general milley why he dsn't resign because he had a different of opinion with the white house. >> i can only conclude tha your advice about staying in afghantan was rejected. ifhis istrue, general milley why hav't you resigned? >> it would be an incredible a offiance to resign because m advice isn't taken. th country doesn't want generals figuring out what orders we'll accept and do or not. that's not our job from a peonal stanoint, my dad didn't get a chance to resign and those kids at abby gate don't get a chance to resign. i'm not going to turn my back on them. >> in your views as somebody that had a very senior position in national security. what kind of country would it be if every time a general said we should stay in the military theater and the commander in chief didn't do as he said, that

general were to resign and call that a resignation of principle. would that still be civilian control of the united states military in your view? >> it would be chaos. i'm surprised tom cotton made such an suggestion. they shouldn't be thinking if they should resign or not if they agree or disagree with the policy of the president of the united states. i'm so glad general milley was able to explain exactly to not just senator cotton but the american people responsibilities of leadership within the military, which is to carry out the authorized and lawful orders of the commander in chief. if a commander in chief was going to do something that was reckless or unethical or illegal, that's when the military officers stand up and say no, i'm not going to do that but in this case, i think general milley and others made their views clear about whether or not we should leave afghanistan or once president biden who had to take all factors into consideration, not

just the military ones, but the american people's sentiments and other factors, once that decision was made, general milley and others did what u.s. military has done for decades and centuries, which is to sole lewd and carry out the order to the best of their ability. >> because the person in charge is the president of the united states. no president is required, am i correct, to take advice unaltered of generals inside of his military, inside of the military in which he's commander in chief. >> that's why it's called advice and the president has to take in advice of the military officials and senior civilian officials and up to the president of the united states to make the best decision on behalf of the people of the united states. and i sincerely believe that joe biden did exactly what he thought was in the best interest. i might not agree with everything that was done or decided but i have no doubt that joe biden was trying to do what he thought was important for the

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>> former president barack obama is urging democrats to not shy away from the argument that the wealthy should pay more in taxes to cover president biden's build back better agen. it's leglation that wl kely py major role in determining joe biden's legacy. today the former president was looking at his own legacy with the ground breaking o his long awaited obama predeial center in chicago. president obama says his he i at thi cter canelphe xteneration take on the central struggles of our time and battle against a growing culture of triable is m. >> we seen in the breach a culture of criticism and mistrust can grow. we start seeing more division. and increasingly bitter conflict. and politics that feeds anger and resentment towards those who aren't like us. and starts turning away from democratic principles in favor

of triable is m and might make right. >> joining me is former white house senior advisor to president ama and president of the obama foundation and valerie, always great to talk with you. it's interesting to see president obam back out now. of course, it's because the groundreaking is taking place on the obama center. but do you think tt he also views in someways president biden and biden's agenda a part of his legacy because it was their partnership and the fights they fought with people like mitch mcconnell to set the table for the fights we're seeing president bid fight now. >> good evening, joy. so first, i have to say to you, it is a glorious day here in chicago. i'm no the obama offices, the foundation oices right now. i was out the on the site earlier today and yes, i do thk that the work that president biden is doing is a continuation of the work that gan under president obama and that's as it should be you run with the baton as fas as you

can. you can't get everythingone and then you leave it to the next persono pick it up and obviously, we had a gap in there and now, president biden is certainly trying to make up for lost time but t other important part of his legacy that he spoke to today, first of all he said everything, nearly everything important in my life started here on the south side of chicago. so to be able to give back to the city with this incredible 19.3 acre center that will be a beacon of hope and a catalyst really, joy, i think for positive change that begins here but will ripple around the world. that's a part of his legacy, too. as he said, he wants to make sure that the next generation is a little bit better prepared for the challenges that lie ahead and if we can play a role in that education, connecting them, convening them, inspiring them and empowering them, that's a really important part of his

legacy together with michelle obama and all of those involved in this extra ordinary that ary journey with them. >> you mentioned michelle. that was going to be my next question. you can't talk about chicago and obamas without talking about michelle. your dear friend, let's play a little byte of her today talking about the center. >> in my mind, this city, this neighborhood, it courses through my veins. it defines me at my very core. it makes me who i . so i'm not just a daughter from the south side but a mother from the south side, a lawyer and executive and authorrom the south side. i am a first lady from the south side of chicago. >> i have heard her give that speech very emotionally before in chicago. she obviously has a great love for the south side of chicago. is michelle part of the catalyst for this becoming a neighborhood center, for having -- i'm looking at the list, auditorium,

classrooms, athletic center, play area, a branch of chicago public library and a push to make sure people who live in that neighborhood can still benefit from its presence. >> yeah, of course she grew up on the south side. they met on the south side, married, had their children and raised them until they left washington. i thin this is very much a partnership. they worked on it together with the community and part of what we've been doing over the last several years is euring we had community voices as a part of the planning process that this isn't a center that turns inward but out ward and having the chicago public library and athleticields and open to the public with walking trails and sledding hills and the winter we do have winter here in chicago, all of that is important to both of them and i think for her it's very personal. both obamas were introduced by high school students from chicago and i think the

connection that you saw between them and young people, they met with students privately and it was such an incredible session. they humanize and these young people see themselves in the obamas because they're not up on a lofty pedestal. they're here down on earth and think that authenticity is what you heard in both remarks today. it was coming home. >> was it -- >> the city that gave them so much. >> i don't know if you feel this way to see the obamas launching something so positive in an era with so many fights if we can pass things like child care and things we expect the government to be able to do, fights going back since their administration. are the obamas optimistic?

because this era is dark. the post and post trump era is dark when you look at what republicans are doing? >> yeah, look, there are huge challenges, joy. you nailed it when you talked about the darksness of the republicans, they won't push through a pang cage that will push basic needs, what gives me hope is these young people that do believe there are better days ahead and all they want is tools to go out and be the force for good. yesterday they met with scholars at the university of chicago already out working in the community, being change agents and all they want is more of an education how to do it more impactfully. we have scholars and fellows from around the world in asia, africa and europe today are out there working on issues they care about from climate change to criminal justice reform to

police reform to income inequality and we're going to give them tools to be impactful, evidence based strategies that president obama learned on the ground here in chicago. and so that's what keeps us optimistic. yes, if you spend too much time in washington, it could eat your soul alive. so that's why even when we were in washington, president obama would tell me when i'm having a bad day, he'd say get outside in washington on the beltway and meet with real people who really want to roll up they are sleeves and make a difference and all we want to do is unleash their full potential. >> now that i'm in washington, i'll say here, here, it is rough on the soul. you're wonderful for the soul, valerie. don't temp me with a good time. valerie, you're great. thank you so much. appreciate you being here tonight. up next, nearly four months after the 100-year anniversary

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more than 100 years after one of the worst episodes of rrorist violence in american history, the few srvivors got a ance to make a case for justice and reparations today. a tulsa district court jud heard arguments on behalf of the three living survivors of the massacre. the two days of horrific violence and white mobs bombed and looted the neighborhood known as black wall street to the ground. the massacre was among the worst in u.s. history and a searchor mass graves of victims continues to this day as many as 300 people were slaughtered and another 800 were wounded. the lawsuit alleges that the

city of tulsa and six entities created a public nuisance under oklahoma law and tulsa's north si and ridentsre sti fferin the rificatns mor than a century later. in advance often anniversary of this atrocity in may, thehree living survors testified at a congressional hearing what they endured. >> we lost everything thatda our homes, our churches, our newspapers, our theaters, our lives, greenwood represented all the best of what was possible for black people in america. >> i was so scared i didn't think we could make it o alive. >>eive it with every d and the thought of what greenwood was and what it could have been. >> for more i'm joined by tiffany cross, host of msnbc's

"the cross connection" and coed tore of the book "the matter of black lives" writing from the new yorker. thank you for being here. tiffany, you went to tulsa and did a fantaic special about those survivors and what they're dealing with this today. talk about this case. what are the hes for it actually to be successful? >> the he is justice, whatever that looks like. these people will not g justice the way they're respected that not only stole their livelihood. what the wonderful attorney simmons argued before this judge today is it's a public nuisance. they're taking the same lawsuit and said the on goingremacy tha destroyed their land is like the opioid crisis and depriving them of their lives. when i was there, joy, the north occupied by black people was a foodidiculously fferent.

th just got a grocery store this year and for a lot of people because i know a lot of folks out the feel like perhaps why do i have to owe reparations for what my ancestors did? i asked the republican mayor in that town that is quite frankly a trump supporter that broke covid protols to have a maga rally there. i asked him about this. his own family actually enslaved black people and he has the -- how can you look at people of tulsa and deprive them? the crt adjourned a little over anour ago. attorney simmons saidhe judge was very fair. this doesn't seem like difficult position for the jue. all she's ruling on is if this case can proceed, not if the reparations wilbe given, if victims will get what th're

asked. she as can thi proceed. this case can b precedent setting for the reparatio argument at large. and just want to say happy pub day to my brother jelani. >> here we go. i have my copy of this book. it's beautiful. i love a good, heavy book. i opened this book and wanted to find your essays. it opens with james baldwin. there are amazing people in it. tony morrison. so many people are writing in it but i happen to just by the grace of god turned to this tony morrison essay and i immediately texted my producers. let me read a little piece by tony morrison. these sacrifices made by supposedly tough white men prepared to abandon humanity suggest a true horror of law status to retain the conviction of their sue pure yourty to others especially black people they're willing to risk content by the mature, sophisticated and

strong if it wasn'to ignore rant and pitif one could money the collapse of dignity and she's talking about people who commit murders, massacres, who hurt and kill black peoe in the name of superiority. talk about this book and about reparations as a theme that we're actually talking abo in real life. >> you know, i mean, it's amazing and, you know, i would be remiss to not talk about the facthat charles ogletr, the attorney had been present on years ago saying it was cause for reparationsn tulsa and people have known and the other thing tha i said consistently about this is that tulsa is just one. we could have this conversation in a lame arkansas about wt happened there. we could have this cversation in chicago about what happened there and washington d.c. about what happened in 1919. we could walk through east st. louis. there i an entire array. we can teach an entire course on

this subject a we do to give it a sense of how minuscule the concern, thessue in tulsa is about reparatio compared to the broad scale o what people cod be bringing lawits out. now, on the specificatter of the reparations, the manner of reparations, other thing that has to be said, a lot of money was raised for that centennial anversary. we were there, city coffers were ovflowing with the money raised andonated for commemoration. then people brought up subject of what happens to the descendents of the families displaced and murdered and whose livelihoods were taken from them, all we could hear was crkets, so least of this is this lawsuit. this is the most minimal respse you could imagine to the scale of the horror visited upon people in that time period. >> and very quickly tiffany, does it make a difference that

people who were harmed are alive? whenever reparations comes up, people say those people are dead. in this case they're alive. >> we heard from mother fletcher, who you saw testify, mother randall. fletcher is 107, randall is 106 and uncle red is 100 years old. the land was destroyed. they did not compensate them for any of the destruction, how do we know the next hilton wasn't there, next legacy of health wasn't there. city is still profiting from their land and denying them liveliho now. generations, rippled in time, fletcher's brother was murdered, back ended theegacy. >> what will people get out of this book? >> vantage point on the things we're looking atight now. astounding array of brilliant

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in '81, '82, '83, 40 years. we self-consciously didn't do that. >> thank you. >> i'mglad, blaming people who are dying, ugliest you could do. >> sure would have been terrible if we blamed people for dyin exactly what t many americans did. a trip down memory lane with ton of blame and white house press corp. laughing. >> lifestyle of some male homosexuals has triggered epidemic of a rare form of cancer. [ inauble ]. >> sound problem there. in fact the right-wing christian moral majority put out ad

advocati masks to prote them from homosexual diseases threatening american families. rhyan white was kicked out of school for contracting aids. 51% of americans tught it was people's own fault for getti aids, god's punishment for immoral bavior. basketball superstar magic johnson had to sign when he tested positive for hiv and when he came back, not every player was okay playing beside himn the court. while society has defitely improved how we treat felw humans living with hiv, not like we've don such a goo job we've entirely forgotten it was a problem in the first place. 2014 pat robertson claimed people were purpose sfli spreading aids with handshakes rings designed to cut the other person.

rapper dalk baby. and boeb ert falsely claims that liberals legalized knowingly spreing hiv while doing the vaccine mandates. not the smartest. there's no comparison at all between way we used to treat aids patient and america asking people who might have an extremel infectious airborne disease to stay hom if they're sick or wear a tiny piece of cloth to cover coughs and sneezes or get a free vaccine. tucker carlson for pretending we tread people with aids better than people who refuse to take covid precautions, once again, you're the absolute worst. that's tonight's "reid out." read the blog on the debate on

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